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EXHIBIT 99.1
Title: Oasis Petroleum CEO Discusses Q3 2010 Results Earnings Call Transcript
Symbol: OAS
Call Start: 10:30
Call End: 11:15
Symbol: OAS
Call Start: 10:30
Call End: 11:15
Oasis Petroleum (OAS)
Q3 2010 Earnings Call
November 09, 2010 10:30 am ET
Q3 2010 Earnings Call
November 09, 2010 10:30 am ET
Executives
Michael Lou SVP, Finance
Tommy Nusz President & CEO
Taylor Reid EVP & COO,
Roy Mace SVP & CAO
Richard Robuck Director of IR
Tommy Nusz President & CEO
Taylor Reid EVP & COO,
Roy Mace SVP & CAO
Richard Robuck Director of IR
Analysts
David Kistler Simmons & Company
David Deckelbaum UBS
Ron Mills Johnson Rice
Andrew Coleman Madison Williams
Michael Hall Wells Fargo
Derek Whitfield Canaccord Genuity
David Deckelbaum UBS
Ron Mills Johnson Rice
Andrew Coleman Madison Williams
Michael Hall Wells Fargo
Derek Whitfield Canaccord Genuity
Presentation
Operator
Good morning, my name is Monica and I will be your conference operator today. At this time I would
like to welcome everyone to the third quarter earnings release and operations update for Oasis
Petroleum Incorporateds conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any
background noise. After the speakers remarks there will be a question and answer session. (Operator
Instructions) Mr. Lou you may begin your conference.
Michael Lou
Thank you
Monica. Good morning everybody. This is Michael Lou, Senior Vice President of Finance.
Many thanks for joining us today as we discuss our third quarter results. Joining me today, are
Tommy Nusz, President and Chief Executive Officer, Taylor Reid, Chief Operating Officer, Roy Mace,
Chief Accounting Officer and Richard Robuck, Director of Investor Relations.
During this call we will provide more details about the acquisition that we announced last night,
review our results for the third quarter and then discuss the outlook for the remainder of 2010.
This conference call is being recorded and will be available for replay approximately one hour
after its completion. The conference call replay and our third quarter 2010 earnings release are
available on our website at www.oasispetroleum.com.
In addition, we have updated our investor presentation for November and it is on our website.
Although we will not be speaking off the slides during this call, please feel free to refer to it
for clarification.
Please be advised that our following remarks, including the answers to your questions, include
statements that we believe to be forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private
Securities Litigation Reform Act. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and
uncertainties that could cause actual
results to be materially different from those currently anticipated. Those risks include among
others, matters that we have described in our earnings release as well as in our filings with the
Securities and Exchange Commission, including our Form S-1, as amended.
We disclaim any obligation to update these forward-looking statements. Please note that our third
quarter 2010 Form 10-Q will be filed tomorrow. During this conference call we will make references
to adjusted EBITDA, which is a non-GAAP financial measure.
Reconciliations of adjusted EBITDA to the applicable GAAP measure can be found in our earnings
release or on our website. Since our last call in August we continue to execute our plan to
aggressively develop and capture our Bakken acreage. We have maintained our focus on drilling in
our core Williston Basin areas, expanded our growth potential and improved our ability to control
operations. We are extremely excited by our record quarter and the outlook for the company.
I will turn the call over to Tommy Nusz.
Tommy Nusz
Thank you, Michael, and good morning everyone and thank you for joining us today for our second
earnings call as a public company. Third quarter can be quickly summarized by the following:
First, financial results are positive with volumes growing and LOE moving in the right direction.
Second, the capital plan is on track with recoveries in line with expectations and costs under
control. And third, we are continuing to high grade our acreage position and build on our core
operated acreage blocks. Last night, we issued a news release discussing some of our financial and
operating highlights for the quarter and year-to-date ending September 30, 2010.
Like last time, we will try to add some color to that release and update you on our plans for the
rest of the year. Then we will open the call up for Q&A. As you know, Oasis became a publicly
traded company on June 17 of this year. The stock trades on the New York Stock Exchange under the
ticker OAS. The IPO provided the capital and liquidity for our seasoned team to execute on our
long-term growth plan, which is increasing production and reserves and ultimately net asset value
for our shareholders.
We have delivered continuous production growth since early 2009 and that trend continued in the
third quarter. Specifically in the third quarter, we brought eight gross operated wells on
production and have 12 more wells currently drilling or waiting on completion. Including operated
and non-operated wells, we added 7.3 net wells in the quarter and increased overall average daily
production to 5,507 Boe per day, up 149% year-over-year and up 23% over the previous quarter.
Overall, we expect recoveries for our third quarter wells to be within the type curve ranges that we
have previously laid out for each area. At the end of the quarter, we had 270 million of cash and
120 million available under our revolver. So were well capitalized for future execution on our
operational plan and future growth.
Along with our operational results we also announced an acquisition transaction that will help us
to continue to improve operational control over one of our large contiguous lease blocks. As most
of you know from our company presentations and previous conversations, Oasis had an AMI in our West
Williston area in a project that we call Hebron located in Roosevelt County, Montana, just west of
the North Dakota border. Before the deal we had approximately 17,000 net acres that we did not
operate with an average working interest of about 50%.
The seller and then operator had drilled two recent 10,000 foot lateral wells, both completed with
23 plug and perf frac stages. Both of those wells, the Luke Sweetman and the Amazing Grace, looked
very encouraging based on early results and have gone a long way in helping us delineate the
acreage. In fact, these wells are already performing within our EUR band for West Williston at 400
to 700,000 barrels of oil only. As a result, we believe this area to be highly prospective and
accretive to our long-term growth potential.
Last Friday, we closed on that acquisition of 16,700 net acres in Hebron giving us operational
control and bringing our total net acres to approximately 34,000 in that project area. The price we
paid at close was approximately $50 million, which includes the acreage and production of about 300
barrels of oil a day equivalent net to Oasis.
In order to exploit this area we have contracted a sixth operated rig that will ultimately be
dedicated to run continuously in this project area. We expect our increased operational presence
and activity in Hebron will drive further operating efficiencies across the field, further driving
down per unit cost.
Michael will spend a little more time walking through the overall impacts of this acquisition to
our capital budget and liquidity later in the call.
We are continuing to employ a base well design that consists of approximately 10,000 foot laterals
and 28 frac stages. Like we said in August, we are seeing well costs in the $6.8 to $7.2 million
range for a 28 stage plug and perf well. Although we believe those costs would be even higher if
not for the ongoing efforts of our operations group to improve cost efficiencies. Despite the fact
that rig count in the Williston is now just under 160, which we believe is an all-time high,
service costs are starting to moderate a bit and availability is improving.
As weve discussed previously, to help us manage cost and efficiency as well as ensure the timely
completion of our newly drilled wells, weve entered into agreements with two pumping service
providers to secure sufficient capacity to support a five to six rig program.
We have one dedicated crew that will be able to do four to five wells per month and the other
provider picks up one slot per month. We are also talking to a third company that has the ability
to provide additional capacity. So our guys have done a great job of securing quality services and
were comfortable that we will be in good shape to match our drilling program with frac slots as we
enter into our 2011 program.
Our typical well includes 28 stages with a 65/35 split between ceramics and sand, and we believe
this setup gets us into our economic type curve range. Still, we continue to vary completion
techniques to optimize our economics in different areas that we operate. So that includes
increasing the number of stages as well as optimizing proppant type and optimizing delivery
systems. We have also been tweaking our per stage concentrations.
While still early, we feel very good about our continuous improvement efforts on completions. We
continue to increase our confidence in 28 stages as a baseline with little to no dilution in per
stage recoveries. So were now playing with some increased stage jobs and believe that additional
stages above 28 will deliver accretive economics. In fact, that is likely to be the most efficient
capital we spend.
We have recently completed the Ernst well on our East Nesson block on the northern end of that core
area up in Burke County. This was a 25 plug and perf plus 11 sliding sleeve combination. Again,
early days, but it looks like weve moved this well further up into our type curve range for the
east side. We pumped over 5 million pounds of white sand and completed the well at a cost of just
over $6.2 million. The performance results of our recent wells are still early, but we do not have
anything that would lead us to believe that we arent taking the right steps to improve overall
well economics and per well recoveries across the basin. Other operators might use different
variations on their completions but ultimately more data points are great for everyone. As we get
more results from different completion techniques, well use the best available data to make the
best decisions on future wells.
With our 1,033 net potential locations in the Williston, this early work can definitely have a big
impact across our inventory. As weve discussed previously, our multi-year inventory of operated
drilling projects on our large concentrated acreage position gives us long-term growth visibility
and time to work constructively with our service providers to find efficiencies and manage costs.
With the Hebron transaction complete Oasis has now over 300,000 net acres in the Williston Basin.
In our West Williston project area we are estimating the gross reserves ranging on average between
400 and 700,000 barrels of oil only or 450 to 790,000 equivalent. We expect that a portion of our
inventory in the West Williston is resilient to lower oil prices in the $45 to $50 WTI range, given
current cost structure. Specifically, this is the area around our operated Angell well which is
just south of the river on the east side of our West Williston position.
We also recently completed the Kjorstad well on the north side of the river just above the Angell
and early results look very good with the first seven day average of 1,670 Boes per day in line with
what we saw out of the Angell well. This further confirms the resiliency of this position and the
production from the Kjorstad will show up in our fourth quarter numbers.
In West Williston, we have increased production in the third quarter to 2,327 Boes per day, a 57%
sequential increase over the prior quarter. This increase is driven primarily by our operated
drilling program. Note that results from the acreage acquired in our Hebron acquisition will be
reported as part of the West Williston project area going forward.
Weve got a slide in our latest presentation that shows you specific geography and highlights
associated with that transaction. And East Nesson we are maintaining our gross reserves average
between 350 and 600,000 barrels of oil only or 400 to 675,000 equivalent. Although this area is
still in early stages of development our east side wells within our core area look to be within our
expected EUR range closer to the mid to the high end in the southern part of the block and lower
end to the northern part of the block.
We believe the acreage in the Southern Burke county works well especially with early results on the
Ernst well which, as I mentioned earlier, was completed with over 5 million pounds of white sand
across 36 stages at a total cost of $6.2 million. Early performance is clearly in the range on the
Ernst Well which produced at an average 441 Boes per day with the first 60 days.
As weve said before, the lower EUR range on East Nesson relative to West Williston is due to lower
reservoir pressure with shallower depths as you head North in the East Nesson Block as well as
higher water saturations in more variability in water cuts. Our Sanish area wells are all
non-operated as you know but very prolific.
Our production in the third quarter increased to 1,445 Boes per day or a 6% increase over the prior
quarter. In this area we have a working interest that range anywhere from less than 1% to as much
as 15% and 1.4 net wells came on production in the third quarter in our Sanish position. I will now
hand the call back to Michael who will review our financial results.
Michael Lou
Thank you, Tommy. Based on our earnings release you can see that we posted several records which we
are very excited about. First our adjusted EBITDA reached $22 million for the third quarter which
was a $15.5 million increase over the third quarter of 2009. Also, we had another record quarter on
production which Tommy discussed earlier.
As I dont expect anyone on the call wants me to reread our press release, Ill just provide some
color on a few points that need some elaboration.
We had a realized price for oil of $66.42 per barrel in a 13% differential in the third quarter.
Historically the basis has been about a 10% average differential and we started the year with
differentials at 11%. In the second quarter there was a bit of additional pressure on the takeaway
side due to a scheduled five to six week turnaround at the Tesoro-Mandan refinery which pushed
differentials up to 14%.
We saw that differential narrow in the third quarter up until the time the Enbridge six day line
went down. The differential did start to expand again but this was slightly offset by higher NYMEX
prices which rose
at the same time the line went down. So while realized prices stayed relatively in line, the dollar
differential definitely grew at that time.
Lease operating expenses for the third quarter were $6.33 per Boe a 38% decrease per Boe from the
third quarter of 2009. The main factors driving this improvement were increasing oil production
volumes with a higher proportion of our production coming from Bakken wells reducing the impact of
our higher cost Madison formation wells. Our Bakken wells are more productive and cost efficient than the older Madison wells.
General and administrative cost increased to $4.8 million or $9.57 per Boe compared to $1.6 million or $7.70
per Boe in the same quarter last year.
Higher general and administrative costs in the third quarter were largely the result of onetime
costs associated with our IPO, the increased cost of being a public company as well as hiring more
employees to support and manage the growth of the company.
In the third quarter, we increased our estimate of our deferred tax liability associated with the
corporate reorganization we entered into at the IPO by $6.2 million to $35.4 million total. This
was obviously non-cash and given our current tax loss status and expected pace of drilling, we do
not expect to be a cash tax payer this year.
Our capital expenditures in the third quarter were $74.8 million bringing our year-to-date capital
expenditures up to $183.3 million. Of our year-to-date expenditures approximately 53% of our
capital budget was invested in our West Williston project area, 36% in the East Nesson and 11% in
Sanish.
In the first nine months we have deployed 85% of our capital dollars towards the drillbit
consistent with our philosophy to focus our capital on our drilling plan. On November 4,
our Board of Directors approved an increase in the companys 2010 capital budget associated
with the recent acquisition of the Hebron assets. Our updated capital budget for this year is
$328.5 million which includes the acquisition of $49.9 million as well as an increase associated
with the drilling and completions of the newly acquired acreage.
We provided updated guidance for 2010 in our press release which include our Hebron acquisition and
updates to where we see our numbers for the year. We raised our fourth quarter average daily
production guidance to 6,000 to 7,300 Boe per day. The increase is primarily a result of stronger
than expected performance from our operated and non-operated wells and the additional production
acquired in our Hebron transaction. We lowered our annual LOE guidance range to $7.25 to $7.75 per
Boe. Our team has done a great job managing cost with year-to-date LOE costs of $7.54 per Boe. And
as Tommy mentioned earlier, LOE costs continue to head in the right direction.
As it relates to G&A expenses, we are expected to be between $9 and $10 per Boe. This guidance is
up slightly from the August guidance numbers for several reasons. First we have had some additional
IPO costs and expenses associated with being a public company that are a bit higher than projected.
Second, our headcount has increased a bit more rapidly than originally anticipated due to our
capital plan increases.
Wed also note that as a private company, we did not accrue for bonus expenses throughout the year.
So 2010, that expense will hit our fourth quarter, it will likely be higher than anticipated due to
higher headcount than planned in operational over performance versus the plan.
In 2011, we may revisit this protocol and well consider accruing for bonuses throughout the year.
As per guidance for 2011, we are currently going through a five-year plan and 2011 budget review
which we will present to our Board in mid-December. We plan to announce our 2011 budget as well as
2011 guidance after this review.
Finally, we finished the third quarter with the cash balance of $270 million and no debt. We also
have an undrawn revolving credit facility of $120 million. Given our cash position, expected cash
flow, and
undrawn credit facility, we have adequate liquidity to fund our future capital commitments and
development drilling programs.
I will now turn the call back to Tommy for some closing remarks.
Tommy Nusz
Thank you, Michael. We continue to aggressively and cost effectively grow production and reserves
and maintain a large inventory of high graded drilling locations. The team is employing leading
drilling and completion techniques to maximize returns while preserving the strength of our balance
sheet.
Lastly, we are continuing to grow our net asset value to our shareholders. The Hebron transaction
is in line with how we expect to manage our acreage and our desire to drive operations. We roughly
doubled our acreage in Hebron to approximately 34,000 net acres and converted a non-operated area
to an operated area on a large contiguous block of acreage, enhancing our ability to generate
operational efficiencies and manage costs. As the operator, we will control the pace, design and
cost of future wells on that acreage, using the best practice completion techniques we employ in
other areas which we believe will result in EURs very similar to our West Williston wells.
As I said last quarter I remain confident about our ability to achieve our growth potential because
we have the right people, quality assets in the right spots, and a tremendous oil resource play and
the financial resources to execute on our plan.
Now well go ahead and open the line up for questions.
Question-and-Answer Session
Operator
(Operator Instructions) And your first question comes from the line of Dave Kistler.
Dave Kistler
Real quickly focusing on the Hebron acquisition, you mentioned how LOE comes down as a result of
the integration of a play like this. Can you speak specifically, not on a company-wide basis, but
just on the impact of adding this kind of acreage, what it does just say the 17,000 acres you have
there in terms of reducing the cost or am I getting too specific on that?
Tommy Nusz
You may be getting a bit granular Dave, but keep in mind what we said consistently is that our
Bakken production will be generally somewhere in the 4 to 5, maybe $6 range per Boe. We have got
that existing Madison production which is about 800 barrels a day net roughly. So the more we do,
we continue to loop down and thats part of whats driving the decrease in our LOE as we go through
quarters.
David Kistler
And then maybe hopping over to the acreage around the Angell well where you talked about it being
very sustainable at kind of $45 to $50 oil prices. Can you just talk a little bit in terms of how
much acreage you think is viable for $45 to $50 oil and then maybe as you look at this, does this
ultimately cause you to delineate the play differently and maybe start creating type curves for
different areas?
Tommy Nusz
Couple of things I would say, the area directly in and around the Angell well and the Kjorstad well
is about 24,000 net acres, thats out over on the west side and in total we have got about a
190,000 acres, the nice
thing about that is that if in the
event that we do have softer commodity prices it gives us
somewhere to take rigs that we have already got contracted back to a spot thats very resilient at
those low oil prices. And then your second question was?
David Kistler
With really given that you have an area that obviously is a little bit more economic, would you
ever consider starting to delineate the play with different type curves?
Tommy Nusz
Yes, I think right now we have been delineating between east and west for you guys and I think as
time goes on, we will be able to give you a bit more granularity on that, we do kind of at a
high-level, for instance, on the east by saying that the southern wells are closer to the higher end and
northern wells are closer to the low end. Same thing on the west side obviously as weve talked
about before that area in and around the Angell and the Kjorstad seems to be a bit the
Angell
well specifically-producing at or above the top end of the type curve. So over time I would expect
to be able to give a bit more granularity on pods and associated well costs which will always be
important. We will start to expand that range with per well costs a bit and as we get more data we
will be able to give you more feedback to match that up with well recoveries by pod.
David Kistler
Great that will be helpful and then just one last thing you didnt really address it and its hard
for you to address at this point given that you are drilling wells that are relatively far apart
from each other, but listening to other conference calls, sharing information, any new thoughts on
down spacing and how you guys are thinking about that going forward.
Tommy Nusz
Taylor do you want to take that?
Taylor Reid
Yeah, we are still looking at it, so for the Bakken, for example, three wells per spacing unit, we
are looking at results from other operators. The area youve got most data at this point
really is Sanish and you are seeing the move to three wells and certainly in the Bakken and some of
the operators talking about two to three additional wells in the Three Forks. So we follow all that
data and think itll apply to other parts of the basin and so at this point we are feeling pretty
confident its probably three per spacing unit and continuing to work on it.
Operator
And your next question comes from the line of David Deckelbaum.
David Deckelbaum
Just wanted to know if you could expand a little bit on a talk around the down spacing, when you
look to 2011, when should we expect to see sort of a Three Forks test from Oasis?
Tommy Nusz
Ill let Taylor jump
in. Its a couple of things. One is on infills well probably in 11 probably
second quarter-ish try to do some infill testing but it will probably be in adjacent units, the
Brigham guys touched on that a bit the other day where we can continue to work on our plan to hold
our drill blocks but test infill potential by drilling close spaced wells in adjacent units and
then in the Three Forks, I think also we are still
finalizing our budget plans for next year. We will have all that done in December but I think
sometime second quarter. Taylor, on Three Forks?
Taylor Reid
Probably end of next year having 3 to 5 Three Forks wells in the west side, still working on the
plan like Tommy said but somewhere in that range and first one will probably be in the second
quarter.
David Deckelbaum
I guess on the Hebron acquisition real quickly and I dont know if I missed this but whats your
working interest in the acquired acreage?
Tommy Nusz
Post acquisition, we are going to end up with a pretty high working interest. I dont know what the
exact numbers are but I would guess on a per-well basis, we are somewhere in the 80% range.
Taylor Reid
80% range on the operated blocks, so we picked up half of the interest.
Tommy Nusz
It was a 50-50 AMI to begin with, so we have basically doubled our position and our working
interest on a per-well basis should be somewhere in that 75 to 80% range.
David Deckelbaum
I know you guys have talked in the past a lot about consolidating some of the unfilled areas thats
surrounded by your acreage, can you talk a little bit about what sort of should we be looking
forward to seeing similar acquisitions to this in the near future, should we? How does that relate
to how youre thinking about holding the rest of your acreage in other parts particularly in East
Nesson?
Tommy Nusz
The highest priority for us and we have said this consistently, is preserving the quality acreage
blocks that we have and not running out and doing deals that dilute our focus on that objective.
This was a great deal for us because one, its leases that we already have the remaining 50% in.
Plus, we can take over operatorship which we felt was important and so where weve got the
opportunity to continue to do that we will and now again we got to balance that off against
aggregate lease preservation within the context overall of our capital liquidity and as weve said
before trying to get to end of 11 with a clean balance sheet. Now, as we do deals like that, that
may pull that up a bit but probably not outside of the resolution of our ability to estimate our
cash flow with oil prices and then getting into 2013 with a balance of cash flow and CapEx. So
still focused on that and we have to be mindful of it as we look at incremental deals but in our
opinion where we are adding value in these large contiguous blocks we will continue to look to
consolidate. Weve said that consistently.
Operator
And your next question comes from the line of Michael Hall.
Michael Hall
Just a couple of quick ones from me. As I look at the wells, weighing on completion relative to
wells drilled currently 4.9 waiting was 2.8 drilling? Is that about the same ratio you would
typically want to run as I am kind of thinking forward?
Tommy Nusz
Michael what I would say is that our spud to first production is still running just under 90 days
and that is what we are focusing on. We had a bit of a backlog here but we are working that, in
fact we were fracing three wells yesterday. So our plan is to stay up with our completions and
again focus on reducing our spud to first production time of 90 days and we are still right now
just under that and as we continue to work in these large blocks with adjacent wells, we ought to
be able to drive that efficiency down more cycle times.
Michael Hall
Okay that is helpful so I mean it is just kind of a timing issue in terms moving equipment from
place to another as opposed to any availability issue is that?
Taylor Reid
We dont just, we dont have a problem with availability like Tommy said we did have a little bit
of a backlog and we really worked that down. We are getting close to the point of what we call
balance going from drilling wells and to fracing them.
Michael Hall
Okay and then as you evaluated the Hebron acreage is there any credit being given to Three Forks as
you looked at that deal or is it purely evaluating this Bakken acreage at this point. How did you
think about that I guess?
Tommy Nusz
For us while we think the Three Forks is prospective there and weve said that consistently it is
difficult to break out by component exactly what you paid for what in the $50 million but clearly
we see that as an upside and weve said that consistently.
Operator
And your next question comes from the line of Ron Mills.
Ron Mills
Couple of questions, you talked about the Ernst well up in Southern Burke County, was that the well
that you said averaged 440 barrels a day over the first 30 days?
Tommy Nusz
Its 441 barrels a day over the first 60 days.
Ron Mills
Over 60 days. And I know you had let in the second quarter some acreage expire over on the East
Nesson area and you picked some up in West Williston. You also had an impairment charge this
quarter. Im assuming, can you give us a little bit more color in terms of acreage expirations
versus acreage additions this quarter or even if you want to include the Hebron deal?
Thomas Nusz
On our base acreage position, I think we ended up net-net, loosing about 2,300 acres, I think we
lost 4,000ish or 5,000 and picked up about 2,500, about half that much and our impairment charge
was pretty low. Roy, you have that number?
Roy Mace
It was about $800,000, about 816.
Ron Mills
And then as you look at the activity, you obviously have four rigs at West Williston, one at East
Nesson and one going to Hebron or I guess if its not already there, you talked about adding a
seventh rig next year, is the plan still to have that one target the West Williston?
Thomas Nusz
Yes, I dont know if the guys have updated the plan yet, but basically, I think its still going to
be one on the east and then the remainder of the rigs on the west. We may as we bring that one on,
we may catch a couple of locations in the east before sending it over, but basically I think the
way to think about it is still one on the east and then six on the west when we get to seven.
Taylor Reid
Yeah, at this point. Later in the year we may pick up a few more wells on East Nesson before we
take them to the west side.
Ron Mills
And Michael you talked about the price differentials from 11 to 14 to 13%, you had the Enbridge
issue obviously impact the third quarter. Where are those differentials running right now versus
that third quarter average of 13%? Because I think as of the August call you always gotten back in
to plus or minus 10 or 11% range prior to Enbridge, trying to get a run rate going forward?
Michael Lou
Yes, we are still currently running kind of in that 10% to 15% range, its changing, but that 13%
neighborhood is probably still pretty good for right now.
Ron Mills
Okay. I guess one last one that you mentioned, Tommy, I missed it I think, you talked about getting
into 2013 with cash flow and debt which in terms of liquidity situation even with this acquisition
what were you were talking I missed your comment right before that, were you talking about between
your cash flow and availability to get you into 2013 or was there an interim step in there as well?
Tommy Nusz
Ron, what weve said consistently is,
is that trying to get out to the end of 2011 with zero debt.
We got a gap in 12 that we would probably fund with some type of high yield and then bridge us to
13 where we get back to balance. Obviously with spending another $50 million on this deal then
that may in 11, that may accelerate that debt a little bit but we cant to try to predict exactly
when thats going to happen relative to market condition is difficult but it may. I mean logically
as we model it obviously it would pull it a little bit forward. That being said, we may be able to
do a little bit more than what we thought that we could do on the debt side originally with results
plus increasing PDP. So still have that as a goal and will keep you guys
updated on where we think we are relative to that goal and make the best financing decisions
relative to our ongoing activity and how we are adding value.
Operator
And your next question comes from the line of Derek Whitfield.
Derek Whitfield
In thinking about your completion testing to date, are there any generalizations you guys can make
about the other variables outside of stages?
Taylor Reid
Some of the other things we have been looking at in addition to the number of stages is the
concentration, proppant or pounds per stage and generally see an increase in recoveries as you
increase the pounds pumped per stage. We are also working on delivery methods so type of fluids
youre pumping. For example, one end heavy crosslink fluids to lighter fluids like slick water
or the mix of those two.
Tommy Nusz
We did a bit of it, as I mentioned we did a combination on the Ernst well which was plug and perf
and sleeves but the guys are getting good enough at this now to where we are doing seven or eight
stages a day. So, on the plug and perf, so we are getting pretty efficient at that.
Taylor Reid
But we set up a program of test wells in and around our standard 28 stage frac wells. Weve got a
set of control wells and then some of these wells that we are trying new stimulation types. As we
get enough production data, we will make some adjustments to the stimulation program going forward.
Our standard is still the 28 stage frac.
Derek Whitfield
Taylor, outside of stages, does it feel like proppant concentration or maybe pounds per stages is
one of the most important variables?
Taylor Reid
Were still looking at it but it looks like there is a pretty decent correlation.
Derek Whitfield
Moving over to gas infrastructure, could you guys comment on how long its taking you now to get
your gas connected to sales?
Taylor Reid
In our areas weve
got limited infrastructure still so on the west side on Red Bank we dont have any
wells currently tied in. We have signed an agreement in that area, with Hiland, and they are
currently designing and putting in the pipe and all that will go to a plant that they have that is
south of that area thats also under construction. We expect the gas from both the Red Bank and
Indian Hills area which were both with Hiland, beyond in the third quarter of next year.
We got a few wells that are tied in the Indian Hills but for the most part, theres not enough
infrastructure in that area as well. Weve got a mix of wells on the south end of the east Nesson,
currently new wells that are tied in and we are working on arrangements with parties in that area.
We are hoping to have our wells on the east side tied in by late next year early the following
year, the remainder of them.
Operator
And your final question comes from the line of Andrew Coleman.
Andrew Coleman
I had a question for you about, your type curve looks like its 88% oil and I assume are there NGLs
included in that or is that in the 12% that would be on the gas side?
Tommy Nusz
Its two product, not three.
Taylor Reid
Which is the oil and gas.
Tommy Nusz
Yes.
Andrew Coleman
So I dont have to worry about forecasting an NGL price then for the quarter. When you say two
commodities there, you talking gas and oil or you talking about oil and NGL?
Taylor Reid
Yes, ultimately the way you can think about it there will be, the way the contracts work on the gas
side, we do get credit for NGLs and gas but a good way to think about thats easier is you can take
the gas volume that youre going to get NYMEX plus, pretty close to NYMEX by the time you have
worked through the gas price, NGLs and get back to the NYMEX pricing.
Andrew Coleman
And then lastly just coming back to the G&A, the accrual for the fourth quarter, you guys havent
put out a number you think that that might be for the fourth quarter. I was looking through the
release, I didnt see any guidance for that.
Michael Lou
We havent specifically said what that number is obviously. It is something that we will reviewing
with our Board, the performance for this year with the Board in December and it will be a number
that they will determine for us.
Andrew Coleman
Okay all right, cool. And Ill just look at it for the short term as something similar what the
implied run rate was on a percentage basis fourth quarter last year.
Operator
And at this time there are no further questions. We will now turn the call back over to Tommy for
closing remarks.
Tommy Nusz
Thanks again for everyones participation in our call this morning. Obviously we are very excited
about our progress to date in the business and look forward to updating you on our progress again
next quarter. Thank you.
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen this does conclude todays conference call. You may now disconnect.