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CORPORATE
PARTICIPANTS
David
Jaffe
Dress
Barn, Inc. - Pres., CEO
Armand
Correia
Dress
Barn - EVP, CFO
CONFERENCE
CALL PARTICIPANTS
Chris
Kim
JPMorgan - Analyst
Sam
Panella
Raymond James - Analyst
Edward
Yruma
KeyBank - Analyst
Janet
Kloppenburg
JJK
Research - Analyst
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Kelly
Hauser
BB&T
Capital Markets - Analyst
Robin
Murchison
SunTrust - Analyst
Margot
Murtaugh
Snyder
Capital - Analyst
Steven
Martin
Slater
Asset Management - Analyst
PRESENTATION
Operator
Good
afternoon ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. My name is Annisea
and I will be your conference facilitator today. Welcome to the Dress Barn Inc
third quarter fiscal 2010 financial results conference call. At this time, all
participants are in listen-only mode. Later, the Company will hold a
question-and-answer session, and instructions will follow at that
time.
As a
reminder, this webcast and conference call is being recorded and will be
available for replay later today. Information on how to access this replay is
available in today's press release. I would like to remind participants that
remarks made by management during the course of this call may contain
forward-looking statements about the Company's results and plans. These are
subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause the actual results and
implementation of the Company's plans to vary materially. These risks are
referenced in today's press release as well as the Company's SEC filings. Thank
you, and now I will turn it over to Mr. David Jaffe, President and
CEO.
David Jaffe - Dress Barn, Inc. - Pres., CEO
Thank
you. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us to discuss our results for our
third fiscal quarter ended April 24, 2010. With me today is Armand Correia, CFO.
I'm very pleased to report a record level of both sales and earnings in our
third quarter. We have strong assortments and favorable trends are driving our
business. We have grown our revenues, improved our margins and are maintaining a
very strong balance sheet.
I'd like
to give you a few highlights from the quarter. First, revenues. As you know from
our release on May 6th, we grew sales in the third quarter to a record level
primarily driven by the inclusion of Justice. The remainder of the growth was
due to the high single-digit comp store sales increases at both dressbarn and
maurices.
Second,
I'm pleased that we grew operating income even faster than our revenues. We grew
operating income to a record level of $78 million or 11.8% of sales compared to
$40 million or 10.7% last year. Gross margins were strong at all three divisions
and we saw some leverage on sales growth. Adjusted earnings per share grew to
$0.60 compared to $0.38 last year. This dramatically exceeded our original
expectations for the quarter and was at the high end of the revised range we
issued on May 6th.
We're
very pleased with the financial performance of our business. We're working hard
to take advantage of a range of opportunities to drive value to our
shareholders. Clearly the inclusion of Justice just as it began to turn around
has been a powerful factor in our ability to generate these year-over-year
increases.
I would
note that Justice had comps of 23% for the third quarter. While this is
admittedly against some relatively easy comparisons to the year-ago quarter, the
combination of this sales gain and a very strong gross margin performance is
very encouraging. Our summer assortment is off to a great start. We have some
compelling products for the key back-to-school season.
Even
though Justice is a big driver it's important to note that we are seeing good
results across all three brands. In the third quarter, both dressbarn and
maurices produced comp store sales gains in excess of their leverage tipping
points. While the business environment is better and consumer spending picked up
versus last year, we believe that consumer behavior and the idea of what
constitutes value has changed and we're benefiting.
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For each
concept, we're in the right real estate with the right fashion at the right
price points. We have also been able to expand our assortment to offer
attractive merchandise and personal service to the new customers we're
capturing.
I'd like
to spend a few moments discussing each of our divisions.
First,
dressbarn. Our 9% comp sales increase in the third quarter was driven both by
growth in transactions and average transaction size with gains both in UPT's and
AUR's. We saw a good response to our marketing activities which we think
directly contributed to the comp gain. Our spring assortments resonated well
with our customer and we saw a positive response in many
categories.
In
particular, we saw good results in suit separates, now in all stores under the
Jones Studio label, and dresses, which continue to benefit from a strong fashion
trend. We are working to maintain and increase our traffic levels and for the
fourth quarter we are adding a new summer fashion book as well as increasing
quantities for two anniversary mailers.
With
regard to maurices, we've grown the store base to 749 locations at the end of
the quarter versus 707 at this same time last year. In addition to the new store
growth, maurices generated a comp increase of 8% in the third quarter. We did
see a slight decline in traffic that offset some of the improvements we saw in
transaction size and conversion. The assortment at maurices performed well in
many categories including plus size merchandise, sweaters, dresses, casual
woven, denim, suit separates and jewelry. E-commerce sales have also been strong
since its fall launch, well above our initial expectations.
With
respect to Justice, we are growing our market share and rebuilding our
productivity with enticing merchandise assortments in a very compelling value
orientation. Our average selling price decreased 3% during the quarter, however
this was more than offset as units per transaction increased 6% and total
transactions overall increased 19%.
The
merchandise assortment this season is trend right with sales up across almost
every category. Our collection of casual and active tops and casual bottoms
continued to deliver large increases. We're also seeing gains in intimates,
accessories, life style and girl care products.
Our
marking strategy at Justice reinforces our value proposition with the good
balance of 40% off through direct mail and store events. Justice has been
utilizing this combination about a year now and while we expect to see continued
comp gains, we believe the level of comps will begin to moderate as we
anniversary our promotional cadence. For the remainder of the spring season we
are planning to increase mailings to our customers by approximately 40% over LY
to promote our 40% entire store events.
In
general, I believe we're on the right path to continued achievement in each of
our three brands. It is our belief that dressbarn is becoming increasingly
relevant and attracting a wider range of women seeking fashion and
value.
maurices
is demonstrating a superior merchandise assortment in underserved markets. And
Justice continues to build its market share in the tween girl
market.
In
conclusion, while the economic recovery remains uncertain we are committed to
providing our customers with fashion at value prices and to focus on efficiency,
synergies and strategies to leverage our strong market presence. We're pleased
to have a very strong balance sheet and to have a full range of opportunities
and strategic alternatives to drive additional value to our shareholders. Thank
you and I'll now turn the call over to Armand to discuss our financial results
in more detail.
Armand Correia -
Dress Barn - EVP, CFO
Thank you David and welcome
everyone. Before beginning my prepared remarks on our third quarter results,
it's important to note in that today's press release Justice numbers are not
included in last year's amounts. However, they are included in this year's since
the merger date of November 25th. I will reference Justice LY amounts in certain
instances for a more valid TY-LY comparison. Our quarterly record earnings
results were driven by the combination of an increase in sales, and increases in
gross profit. Net sales for our fiscal third quarter increased $290 million
versus last year and was primarily from the inclusion of Justice sales which
accounted for $245 million of this quarter's total increase with the remaining
$45 million coming from dressbarn and maurices.
Our comp
sales performance was better than expected at all three divisions resulting in a
14% consolidated increase. In addition, our comp sales results continue to show
consistency with five consecutive quarters of increases. We are pleased that our
overall sales performance reflect, as David mentioned, increased transactions
per store coupled with increases in average dollar sale. By division, dressbarn
net sales increased 9% to $242.5 million, with comp sales increasing
9%.
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At
maurices, sales increased 17% to $177.9 million with a comp sales increasing 8%.
Included in maurices sales results, are approximately $3 million from it's
ecommerce business. It's appropriate to note that e-commerce sales are not
included in our comp sales results.
Net sales
at Justice were $245.1 million with comp sales increasing 23%. This performance
follows an equally strong 19% comp sales increase during the previous quarter.
Justice quarterly sales also include approximately $10 million from its
ecommerce business which increased significantly over last year's $5 million
performance.
It should
be noted that the amounts shown in our income statement are on a GAAP basis
unless otherwise noted. Total gross profit dollars for the quarter increased
$136.5 million with Justice accounting for $109 million of this increase. Our
overall gross profit as a percent of sales increased 250 basis points to 43.8%
with increases at all three divisions. The increase came from merchandise margin
improvement coupled with increased leverage from buying and occupancy
costs.
By
division, the gross profit rate at dressbarn increased 180 basis points to
40.6%. The increase came from a 120 basis points improvement in merchandise
margins and 60 basis points from buying and occupancy costs
leverage.
While at
maurices, the gross profit rate increased 250 basis points to an impressive
47.4%. Merchandise margins have counted for 180 basis points with 70 basis
points coming from buying and occupancy costs leverage. The gross profit rate at
Justice increased 360 basis points to a strong 44.4%. This improvement was
primarily from buying and occupancy costs leverage. Total SG&A expenses for
the quarter increased 190 basis points and were primarily due to the inclusion
of Justice which had a higher SG&A rate as well as an increase in provision
for incentive compensation which is reflective of the significantly better than
planned earnings results.
Depreciation
expense increased approximately $2.5 million from the prior quarter. The
increase was due to Justice being included for the full quarter.
Moving
down the income statement, total operating income dollars increased to $76.7
million compared to $40.3 million last year. Operating income as a percent of
sales improved to 11.5% increasing 80 basis points over last year's 10.7% of
sales. The increase came from a combination of Justice's results for the full
quarter and increases from dressbarn and maurices. On a non-GAAP basis, this
year's operating income was $78.3 million, or 11.8% of sales. By division
dressbarn operating income was $16.8 million or 7% of sales, compared to $15.2
million, or 6.8% of sales last year.
On a
non-GAAP basis this year's dressbarn operating income was $18.4 million, or 7.6%
of sales. maurices quarterly operating income was outstanding. Increasing to an
all time high of $35.2 million and grew 330 basis points to an impressive 19.8%
of sales. This on top of last year's very strong $25.1 million or 16.5% of
sales. Justice's quarterly operating income results continue to exceed our
expectations and come in at a strong $24.7 million, or 10.1% of
sales.
Interest
expense decreased approximately $2 million compared to the prior quarter, and
was due to the pay off of our convertible notes at the beginning of the quarter.
Our quarterly effective tax rate was 37.7% and is expected to be approximately
39% going forward.
Net
earnings increased to a record $48 million or $0.59 per share. This compares to
$23.1 million or $0.37 per share last year. For a more valid earnings comparison
to last year on a non-GAAP basis this year's quarterly net earnings were $49
million, or $0.60 per share compared to last year's $23.4 million or $0.38 per
share. Weighted average diluted shares outstanding for the quarter increased to
81.9 million shares. The increase of 20.1 million shares versus last year was
due to the issuance of 6.2 million shares from the payoff of our convertible
notes and 11.7 million shares for our Justice merger. In addition, share based
compensation accounted for approximately two million shares.
Turning
to our balance sheet which remains strong and nearly debt free and reflects very
healthy cash flows. We ended the quarter with $375 million in cash and
investments. As a reminder, we used approximately $117 million early in the
quarter to pay off our convertible notes. Adding to the Company's financial
flexibility is a four year $200 million ABL credit facility.
As for
inventories at the end of the quarter, total inventories were $264.1 million,
compared to $176.3 million last year.
Including
Justice in last year's amounts, total inventories increased 5%. Well in line
with our sales trends and with clearance levels below last year's at all three
divisions. By division, inventories at dressbarn increased 1% to last year, as
well as on an average store basis. maurices inventories increased 5% and
actually decreased 1% on an average store basis. With Justice inventories
increasing 9% an increase of 12% on an average store
basis.
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Looking
ahead, we are estimating mid single-digit comp sales increases for our fiscal
fourth quarter ending July. And are reaffirming our recently issued fiscal year
non-GAAP earnings per share guidance in the range of $1.80 to $1.85. We believe
our fourth quarter presents some increased sales opportunity with overall easier
comp sales comparisons to last year.
In
closing, we expect to announce our initial fiscal 2011 earnings per share
guidance with our fourth quarter and year end July 2010 financial results on
September 15th. Thank you. Operator, we will now open it up to
questions.
QUESTION
AND ANSWER
Operator
(Operator
Instructions) And the first question comes from the line of Janet Kloppenburg
with JJK Research. Please proceed.
Janet Kloppenburg - JJK Research - Analyst
Hi
everybody, and congratulations.
Armand
Correia - Dress Barn -
CFO
Thanks,
Janet.
Janet
Kloppenburg - JJK Research -
Analyst
Just to
talk a little bit about the gross margin performance. I see that both dressbarn
and maurices had significant increases in merchandise margins, but Justice did
not. Maybe you can talk about why that was. We don't have history on the
company, and maybe you can talk about the opportunity there, and David, if
there's going to be some cost pressures going down the road. And we're hearing
about cotton price increases across the board. And secondly, David, we're
hearing a lot about sluggish results here in May. I don't know if you're seeing
a downturn, but it seems that most in the industry have, and perhaps you can
talk a little bit about that. Or calendar shifts, et cetera, that you think may
be affecting business. Thanks so much.
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
Okay,
you've got a lot there, Janet. Getting your money's worth on that one. I think
the gross margin at Justice is going through a bit of a change, because of the
new model, and I think everybody is aware, Justice is going for more of a value
approach, and as it transforms its business and goes to more 40% off events,
either through mail or through store events, you'll see a little bit of pressure
there but I think as we go forward and that model begins to settle out, and we
can continue to transition our sourcing to internal sourcing, I think we'll be
able to make it up in the margin, I'm sorry, the initial mark up, so we're
confident that this model as it continues to mature, is a terrific model and
they're well on the road to achieving that.
The
second point, on cost pressures, yes, we're hearing the same thing on cotton. We
just had some people over there, and we are seeing some pressures for increases
in the raw material, which is going to drive some of our product up. We think
that there will be some discussion about price increases. We have not made any
final decisions yet. It certainly will not be for the back to school season. As
we get out to the next, to holiday and to spring, we're going to have to think
through that strategy. And at this point, no final decisions have been made. But
I think that you are going to see, just like we've all been reading about, you
are going to see some increases in cotton, and even some of the oil based
fabrics. So, it's probably low to mid single digits, I'd say.
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And
finally, sluggish results. We have seen a bit of a slow down in the back half of
April and May. Overall, we're still up, but not nearly at the same level we were
through the third quarter. I think part of that is due to the fact that we
bought some of the business forward. I think part of it is that the industry
also felt a little bit of the cold from the chill in the back half of April and
part of May versus the wonderfully unseasonably warm weather we had earlier in
April and March. And I think that maybe the customer is just kind of catching
her breath.
We're
optimistic for June and July. So even having said all that, while the numbers
weren't quite what we would have loved to have seen in May, we still are very
comfortable with our initial projections for the quarter, and again, remember
that we moved the business forward because of the Memorial Day shift this year
into June. So I think when you factor all that in, it's not as concerning to us
as it is to other people. And as you all know, last year, when things were a
little tougher out there, we continued to perform well probably due down to the
trade down effect. So we're fairly confident that as we get into June and July
and the back end of our fourth quarter of fiscal year, that we should still be
able to hit our numbers.
Janet
Kloppenburg - JJK Research -
Analyst
Great,
thanks and good luck.
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
Thanks,
Janet.
Operator
The next
question comes from the line of Chris Kim with JPMorgan. Please
proceed.
Chris
Kim - JPMorgan -
Analyst
Thanks,
great quarter, guys. Just following up on the question, is the current trend
right now, in that mid single-digit range that you just guided to for
May?
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
No, what
I guided to is for the quarter, Chris.
Chris
Kim - JPMorgan -
Analyst
I'm
sorry, for the quarter, but in May, you mentioned that you saw some
deceleration, still positive, but sort of within that mid single-digit guidance
that you gave for the quarter.
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
It's a
little lighter than that.
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Chris
Kim - JPMorgan -
Analyst
Okay. And
--
David Jaffe - Dress Barn - President and CEO
Therefore,
Chris, we think that we're going to improve in June and July, and obviously May
is our weakest month of the quarter.
Chris
Kim - JPMorgan -
Analyst
Got
you.
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
We're not
too concerned.
Chris Kim - JPMorgan - Analyst
With
respect to maurices, I think you mentioned that the traffic levels have been
kind of waning a bit here. Can you talk a little bit about the marketing that
you have planned there and what ability do you have to flex that up and how
quickly can you sort of react to whatever trends you are seeing in traffic
there?
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
Well, at
maurices, we really market two primary ways. One is in-store events that we
advertise through window posters. And the other is through what we're doing in
direct mail. So direct mail has got a little bit more of a lead time, because we
have got to get the list and get the piece done and get that all sorted out.
There's less opportunity to flex that kind of in season or within a short period
of time, within, say, a two or three-week window, where as we do have pretty
good flexibility to add an event in the store or increase a promo, or what have
you, to try and get some either greater traffic or greater conversion once the
customer gets in the store.
But at
this point, we don't feel the need to do any of that because of the way that
business is trending, the response we've been getting to the events that we have
done, we think we'll be fine and we're going to hit our numbers. We don't
anticipate doing any incremental promos at any of the divisions, and I did talk
in my earlier comments about doing an incremental fashion book for dressbarn as
well as increased quantities for all three divisions.
Chris Kim - JPMorgan - Analyst
Okay.
Great. Thanks so much and best of luck.
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
Thanks,
Chris.
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Operator
And the
next question comes from the line of Sam Panella with Raymond James. Please
proceed.
Sam
Panella - Raymond James -
Analyst
Thanks
and let me add my congratulations. In terms of the Justice division, obviously a
really strong turn-around there, how much would you say is the environment
versus what the Justice team is doing versus and how much influence have you had
on that turnaround, and then if you could update us in terms of what type of
cost savings you're seeing from the merger? Thank you.
David Jaffe - Dress Barn - President and CEO
Okay,
first, I am going to take absolutely no credit for doing anything there except
congratulating them on their strong performance. Mike Rayden and his team
continue to do a fabulous job. The turn around that they put in place a year ago
is really hitting strides. We were very fortunate in the timing, because
everything they did after some testing last spring has worked out, and they
continue to improve their merchandise and their marketing, and so right now, I
would say that they're hitting on all cylinders. And while the environment
helps, and while the comps are huge, relative to last year, they're just
building back to a level that we know they're capable of. So I think that that
business is in a really good place, and even though I think the comp increases
are going to moderate as we turn the corner into fall and back to school, we're
very, very pleased with that business, and very optimistic about the
outlook.
In terms
of the merger, the cost savings that we've identified, and we've talked about on
the last call and some of the other meetings we've done, are really limited to
the low hanging fruit, and the number we've thrown out is $5 million in kind of
right off the bat savings, and it's all the obvious stuff. There are a lot of
things that are in process that we think will have much more significant savings
or cost avoidance, and we're literally in the middle of those processes, those
discussions now. We're going to have a lot more to talk about at the September
call, because a lot of them are kind of still going back and forth with the task
force and consultants we've set up to work on them.
Sam
Panella - Raymond James -
Analyst
Great. If
could you just update us on your thinking in terms of your use of
cash.
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
Well
right now, Sam, we kind of like sitting on the cash. We were fortunate having
the cash to be able to pay off our convert, and that obviously has been a very
accretive transaction. At this point, we're not planning any dividends or stock
repurchases.
However,
we do have a Board meeting coming up next week, and as you know, we talk about
this at every board meeting just to kind of play off different strategies or
ideas, but at least now we have no plans for the cash, and we would like to see
the current environment play out for another, say, six months, and then as we
get through the holiday season, maybe take another look at our cash position and
what strategy might make the most sense.
Sam Panella - Raymond James - Analyst
Great,
thanks, guys. Good luck.
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David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
Thanks.
Operator
(Operator
Instructions) And the next question comes from the line of Edward Yruma with
KeyBanc. Please proceed.
Edward
Yruma - KeyBank -
Analyst
Hi,
thanks very much, and congrats on a nice quarter, guys.
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
Thank
you, Ed.
Edward
Yruma - KeyBank -
Analyst
Can you
talk a little bit more about maurices and the sources of upside there during the
quarter? I know performance there has improved demonstrably and how we should
think about maurices over the next couple of quarters.
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
I think
maurices was in a wonderful position because they had some good trending
businesses that they were able to chase. So while we planned the business
initially a bit lower, as you remember, we were still able to come in with an 8%
by chasing some of the quick turning and hot categories, and some of those are
areas that are newer to us, the suit separates as well as plus size are two good
examples of businesses that really didn't exist three years ago, as well as more
traditional areas like denim and jewelry that have been very strong. So we look
out for the next couple of seasons and feel pretty good about our business. In
particular, as we look at the summer business, the wear now business, we've
actually got more inventory this year than last year so we're anticipating an
opportunity to satisfy that customer that's coming in for wear now merchandise,
and then we think we will be in great shape for back to school, and are chasing
some of the hot categories as I mentioned like denim and knit
tops.
Edward
Yruma - KeyBank -
Analyst
Great.
And then on the AUR commentary at Justice, I know you indicated it was down, but
my understanding is that's due to the deliberate promotional activity or the 40%
off. When do you lap that, and then how do we think about longer term justice
AUR trends? Thank you.
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
We start
lapping it now. I forget the exact date, but as we hit June is when we started
doing the 40 off last year, and we will continue to match last year and in some
cases we'll add 40-off days. So we think that the AUR is going to continue to be
impacted a bit, and as we go forward, we will see how impactful the 40 off on
the 40 off is, if we're able to drive new traffic to the store because kind of
the word is getting out and our catalogs, our catazines, as we call them, are
getting to more customers because we're mailing them deeper. That's going to be
a wait-and-see, and we'll see where we come out.
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Edward
Yruma - KeyBank -
Analyst
Thank you
very much.
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
Thanks,
Ed.
Operator
And the
next question comes from the line of Mr. Scott Krasik with BB&T Capital
Markets.
Kelly
Hauser - BB&T Capital
Markets - Analyst
Hi, guys.
This is [Kelly Hauser] calling in for Scott. Clearly you're running ahead of the
operating margin goals you set last quarter. Can you update us on your near term
and long-term margin outlook?
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
I'm
sorry, Kelly, is it operating margin you're looking for?
Kelly Hauser - BB&T Capital Markets - Analyst
Yes,
sir.
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
Okay. Our
operating margin continues to expand because we're getting sales above our
tipping point. So as we look out, and if we talk about the year, we're driving
to slightly higher numbers, but at this point, I wouldn't want to give you any
specifics for next year. We'll do that in September. So we think they're going
to increase in fourth quarter, and if we look at the increase number overall,
and if we look at next year we can talk more about that in
September.
Kelly
Hauser - BB&T Capital
Markets - Analyst
Okay,
great. And regarding the competitive environment, some of your higher priced
peers started reporting positive comps. How do you think that affect your comps
going forward?
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
I think
that's a good question. We think we benefited from some trade-down, and as some
of the higher priced guys are getting their customer back, are they truly
getting higher sales, or is it just higher sales compared to last year? So it
may be that there's been a paradigm shift and that people are just buying less,
and it may be partially that we're going to hold on to some of that business,
and some of it, yes, will go back to the higher end stores. So we're kind of
interested to see how that plays out, but as I say, we're feeling very
comfortable with our projections for the balance of the quarter and who knows
what happens with the consumer as we head into fall and Christmas, but right
now, we like our positioning.
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Kelly Hauser
- BB&T Capital Markets -
Analyst
Great.
Thank you.
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
Thank
you, Kelly.
Operator
(Operator
Instructions). And the next question comes from the line of Ms. Robin Murchison
with SunTrust. Please proceed.
Robin Murchison - SunTrust - Analyst
Thanks
very much. Good afternoon, everybody.
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
Hi,
Robin.
Robin
Murchison - SunTrust -
Analyst
Hi. Okay,
so just a few questions here. I wondered if you would update us, anything you
may be seeing in terms of implementation of best practices, or how that's
unfolding as you've had a little more time with Justice and in consideration of
the core model. Also would like to know, versus last year, fourth quarter, comps
for the balance of the quarter, were they tougher the beginning of Q4, and got
it a little bit easier, or how do the comparisons look last year?
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
I will
take the first one Robin, then turn it over to Armand for the second one. In
terms of best practices, as I mentioned earlier, some of the cost savings are
works in progress, and some of the things we're doing are fairly significant and
are six-month, year-long projects, so we think we're going to get significant
savings out of them, or cost avoidance or greater efficiency or greater
opportunities. But they're going to be awhile to put into place. So it's
happening on a number of different fronts, and I'm very optimistic that we are
going to evolve dressbarn, maurices, and Justice into more of a holding type
company with a lot of the shared infrastructure on the back end, and then
independent marketing and merchandising and fuel operations on the front end,
and that model I think is going to work very well for us, and I hope to have
some more specifics in terms of savings and benefits when we talk in September.
Armand?
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Armand Correia
- Dress Barn -
CFO
Robin, as far as the comps that we're up against in
the fourth quarter, as I indicated, I thought that overall, they are certainly
achievable, even in kind of a questionable retail climate that we're in.
dressbarn stores actually had a pretty good fourth quarter last year coming in
with a plus four comp. Maurices, on the other hand, was pretty challenging. They
had come in at a minus 5 comp for the quarter, and justice came in at a minus
12. Again, Justice wasn't on our shift at the time, but that's the numbers that
they're up against. So if you really look at this and even bring Justice into
the mix here, we're probably looking at an overall minus 4 comp that we're up
against. So given the tone of the business, I'm pretty confident that that's
certainly plays in our favor.
David Jaffe - Dress Barn - President and CEO
As far as the trend during the quarter, there wasn't
really a significant trend. I think it really depended on the business itself.
In the case of maurices, their trend actually weakened from May to July.
dressbarn's trend actually was a little sporadic with May being up, then July
being up as well, but June was down. And Justice pretty much followed the same
trend, but a trend that showed improvement throughout the fourth
quarter.
Robin Murchison - SunTrust - Analyst
Can I slide one more in? Is there anything to say --
you all did mention wear to work. We're certainly hearing a lot about wear to
work being a good category. Certainly the dressbarn division seems like that
would be a huge benefit. Dresses, I'm hearing sort of mixed things about, that
maybe that trend is beginning to show some decline, a little bit older. Can you
comment?
David Jaffe - Dress Barn - President and CEO
Well, career has been good for dressbarn and
maurices, and dresses have actually been terrific at dressbarn and maurices. So
we haven't seen the slowdown that other people are talking about, but we're also
coming out of dress season. But right now, so far, so good. And we don't
anticipate anything in the next month or so as we come out of the season that
would take us down.
Robin Murchison - SunTrust - Analyst
Congratulations.
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
Thanks,
Robin.
Operator
And the next question comes from the line of Margot
Murtaugh with Snyder Capital. Please proceed.
Margot Murtaugh - Snyder Capital - Analyst
Yes, thank you very much. I just wondered if you
could talk more about the e-commerce opportunity, where you are in that, and
what you think the potential is, and also if you could talk more about so and
what kind of changes you might make.
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David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
Okay.
First, e-commerce, we have three different situations. At Justice, e-commerce
has been around for a long time, and is very well established, and through some
fresh thinking at Justice, that business is really performing very, very well,
and growing significant double digits. So we're really pleased with the way
that's going. As I mentioned earlier, the e-commerce business at maurices has
just launched in the fall and is off to a really good start. We're very pleased
with it. We think it's got tremendous potential and the dressbarn business will
be launched, is on track to launch this fall, and we're also optimistic that
that will be a strong business for the dressbarn division.
Margot
Murtaugh - Snyder Capital -
Analyst
Okay.
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
On the
second question, sourcing, we have two basic models to talk about. As you may
recall, Justice is going to primarily a direct source model, and Justice has its
own offices overseas and is virtually completely integrated from soup to nuts,
where as dressbarn and maurices use agents overseas, and the direct purchasing
is about 40% of the dressbarn and maurices business versus, say, 80% of the
Justice business. As such, we think that there's an opportunity to learn from
the Justice model and use the infrastructure that justice has established to
begin testing some sourcing directly through Justice rather than go through our
agents. And, in fact, we've begun to do that on a very limited way, and we
anticipate that growing, but we're going to go very carefully and make sure that
we don't disrupt our change of supply and that we also do it the right way and
set up the right systems and resources and people that will enable us to grow it
if indeed it is successful.
Margot
Murtaugh - Snyder Capital -
Analyst
Do you
have any comment on costs in China? We heard about costs rising. Do you have a
comment about that and how you plan to deal with it?
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
As I
mentioned earlier, the cost pressures we're seeing are primarily commodity
increases in cotton and oil based fabrics, although we are hearing about labor
increases as well. We haven't seen that directly. We just have heard about it.
So I think as we go out and start looking at bids for our holiday, and
particularly our spring merchandise in the coming months, we're going to have to
see where the numbers come in and then make a decision as to whether or not
we're going to be forced to raise prices or whether the manufacturer and
ourselves can absorb some of it.
Margot
Murtaugh - Snyder Capital -
Analyst
Okay,
thanks. Congratulations.
David Jaffe - Dress Barn - President and CEO
Thanks,
Margot.
Operator
And the
next question comes from the line of Steven Martin with Slater Capital
Management. Please proceed.
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Steven
Martin - Slater Asset
Management - Analyst
Two
questions. You recently opened up a remodel or remodeled a store in Manhattan.
Can you talk about how the remodels are doing? And secondarily, the Jones line
at dressbarn you've said has done well. Have you thought about extending that
into other categories other than the suit separates?
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
Sure. The
remodels are our new prototypes and that is at dressbarn, for those not aware.
They have done very well. The remodels are for the season, since they opened in
the February-March time frame. For the season, they're up double digit
incremental over the chain so we're really pleased with their performance, and
we're going to watch them carefully to see if that incremental increase
continues. Obviously we'd love that across the chain if that were possible, so
we're pleased, and we're continuing to roll that out with all our new stores and
remodels as we go forward but at this point we have no imminent plans to
increase our level of remodels.
On Jones,
yes, Jones is doing very well. We've rolled it out to all dressbarn and
dressbarn woman stores, and we have gradually expanded the breadth of our
offerings, and we are currently looking at extending it into other categories as
well.
Steven Martin - Slater Asset Management - Analyst
What is
the price premium of the Jones line versus the comparable product?
David Jaffe - Dress Barn - President and CEO
It's in
the range of about 20%.
Steven
Martin - Slater Asset
Management - Analyst
Thank
you.
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
It's a
terrific product, so it's definitely the customer is seeing the value and happy
to pay for it, so it's, like our old business, the suit business, which we've
gotten out of, this is a much cleaner business, and much less of a high/low
business than the suit business.
Steven Martin - Slater Asset Management - Analyst
Thanks.
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
Thanks,
Steve.
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Operator
There
are no questions at this time.
David
Jaffe - Dress Barn - President
and CEO
All right. Well, thank you, operator, and thank you,
everyone, for your participation in our third quarter call, and we'll look
forward to speaking with you again September for our fiscal year end
call.
Operator
Thank you for your participation in today's
conference. This concludes the presentation. You may now
disconnect.
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